Since everyting here has become public knowlege anyway, and the damage is done, I don't feel guilty about giving people a glimpse at the website that has everyone in Govenments all over the world pulling out their hair
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Cablegate: 250,000 US Embassy Diplomatic Cables
2010-11-28
On Sunday 28th Novembre 2010, Wikileaks began publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into the US Government's foreign activities
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War Diary: Iraq War Logs
2010-10-22
The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.
War Diary: Afghanistan War Logs
2010-07-25
From here, you can browse through all of the documents that have been released, organized by type, category, date, number of casualties, and many other properties. From any document page, clicking on the green underlined text will open a popup that links to other documents that contain those phrases, making it possible to see important search terms and connections that you might not otherwise notice.
Video: Collateral Murder
2010-04-05
WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-sight, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.
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Ron Paul: ‘What we need is more WikiLeaks’
ReplyDeletePopular Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul is no stranger to breaking with his party, but in a recent television appearance the libertarian-leaning Rep. went even further than any member of Congress in defending whistleblower website WikiLeaks.
Speaking to Fox Business host Judge Napolitano on Thursday about recent revelations at the Federal Reserve, Paul's typical candor showed through.
"What we need is more WikiLeaks about the Federal Reserve," he said. "Can you imagine what it'd be like if we had every conversation in the last 10 years with our Federal Reserve people, the Federal Reserve chairman, with all the central bankers of the world and every agreement or quid-pro-quo they have? It would be massive. People would be so outraged."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/ron-paul-what-wikileaks/
Statements like that are why I could never support Ron Paul. He is a nut.
ReplyDeleteCapt.. the reason I broughy up Ron Pauls statement is because their is supposed to be another Wiki--- release this one about one of the major banks.. Rumors are suggesting that in is BOA. The Federal Reserve has been very generous to them. In turn they, and the other financial companies the FED's helped been very generous to the Democrats..
ReplyDeleteRon Paul commented to his 19,000 followers via Twitter: "In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble."
ReplyDeleteOn the bank leak, I anticipate that the leaks from the financial sector will reveal their business practices. I think it's going to be all about THEM. If there's anything of a political nature, Dems AND Repubs would be fretting.
I wonder if you folks have noticed the difference in "outrage" by government and sycophants of government, between the first "leak" and this one? And also how you feel about that?
ReplyDeleteThere didn't seem to be much outrage over the first. Since that was over military combatants (at least the video), who in my opinion were showing quite a bit of restraint (they had to get "permission" over and over) before they fired on ARMED people (regardless of whether they were soldiers) in a hostile war zone.
So now you have this "leak", which is nothing more that demonstrating the lying thieving nature of government parasites the world over, from their own words, no less; and the bureaucrats and their mouthpieces are furious about it.
Seems to me that our overloads in government care nothing (any more than their public lip service) for the brave men and women in combat, and only care about having egg on their physically repulsive faces. And it's only because it's being made public. You actually think that the scumbag bureaucrats of other nations don't know that our government is also chock full of scumbag immoral bureaucrats? Sure...
I agree with Ron Paul.
Lewis I've noticed the difference.. I stumbled accross some distubing stuff about the Governments reaction to this release, This was one of several. othes involve Social Security Administration employees and Members of the Armed Forces
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If you are thinking about working for the government, but have recently used social media platforms to link to or discuss WikiLeaks’ cablegate materials, you can likely kiss that potential career path goodbye.
An email forwarded by a student enrolled at the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia is making the rounds on the Internet this weekend. The email, which is said to have originated from the Columbia University’s Office of Career Services, warns anyone aspiring for a government job that WikiLeaks is off limits.
Hi students,
We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.
The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.
Regards,
Office of Career Services
Very useful to read NY Times blog on this unfolding event. I notice that the cables referencing Afghanistan provide no new information. But the blog does highlight noteworthy facts. Here are a few I found interesting:
ReplyDelete- Pay Pal has pulled service from Wikileaks. Another site remains for donations.
- Daniel Ellsberg, who released the Pentagon Papers, calls for a boycott of Amazon, who pulled out of hosting Wikileaks. I bet 25 cents, that call will go nowhere.
- Wikileaks on Facebook has 500,000 fans. I bet 25 cents, Facebook will not kick Wikileaks off.
- Links to three NEW wikileaks sites was posted.
- A Pakistan judge refused to shut Wikileaks down saying that the truth had to be confronted even if unpleasant.
There's nothing earthshaking in the material, but a tsunami breach in electronic security: "it seems worth noting that this is a record of diplomatic traffic, not intelligence reports, and it is material that was only considered sensitive enough to restrict access beyond a pool of up to 3 million government officials."
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/04/paypal-suspends-wikileaks-account/
My preditions - Wikileaks and Assange seem to have a growing tide of support heading in their direction. They/he are likely to end up in court, but they may not lose there. On the other hand, twenty-two year old Pfc. Manning will be tried for treason. I'm not sure any documents related to his trial will get leaked. I put another 25 cents on each of those predictions, which equals one whole virtual dollar.
Oh well, Grumpy...I guess I'll never get that assassin job with the CIA that I always wanted.
ReplyDeleteRight out of college in 1990 I had a chance to work for the IRS starting at $35K/yr. You want to talk about job security...But that seemed to oily to me, even at 19 years old. I'm glad I didn't, because I would probably be in federal prison about now, declared as a traitor or some such nonsense.
P.S. - I think the bank thing is going to get people killed. The Wikileaks folks better not have family members that they love. Now they're starting to upset the real apple cart that runs the world.
ReplyDeleteGeez, I just posted a long comment and it didn't stick. :-(
ReplyDeletePerhaps, we hit post at the same time.
I'm going to give it another go from memory.
Lewis - I agree 100% on your view on the "bank thing."
I recommend checking out the NY Times blog on this event at:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/latest-updates-on-leak-of-u-s-cables-day-6/
Here's some hightlights:
- Pay Pal pulled its service from Wikileaks; however, another company is still on board collecting donation.
- Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, calls for a boycott of Amazon, who pulled as Wikileaks provider.
- Wikileaks now has THREE NEW links to its site.
- A Pakistani judge denied a motion to keep Wikileaks out saying truth must be confronted even if unpleasant.
Recent cables on Afghanistan reveal nothing we did not already know. In my view, the uptick on stopping Wikileaks began with Assange's comments the financial sector was next. In my view, this is all about public disclosure of private electronic communications. What is right? What is legal? Stay tuned.........this is heating up.
I was watching an interview with some of the wikileaks "reporters", who are aware they are in danger. However, they made it clear that it's all going to come out regardless if that Assange character is killed or not. Not only that, they stated that if Wikileaks gets shut down, it won't matter because many more organizations will just pop up to take its place.
ReplyDeleteThe elite aren't accepting very well that their reign is coming to an end. I think that's why they are scrambling to get this "net neutrality" thing in place, and Senator Liberman's "internet kill switch". At no other time in human history is information so readily available. Secrecy and deception are the major tools of the ruling class. There just isn't enough ammunition to rule by death and physical threats. Plus, if you wipe everyone out, what exactly would you be ruling over?
The Kill Switch would only be enforceable in this country.... so 67 out of every 70 people worldwide would know what's going on, but Americans wouldn't,
ReplyDeleteGrumpy: This remains a worthy Grumpyelder conversation to continue. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteThere is far more going on than a leak of material. When a President of a country known as part of the "free-world" calls for the assassination of Assange, great damage is done. If Assange has committed a crime, that's what we have courts for. We can thank the President of Canada for fueling a PR nightmare, tarnishing democracy and being a dolt for a head of state. One thing for sure, 22 year old Pfc. Manning is likely never to be released. He will pay dearly for this.
DFTTS... There's a good reason the military and the liberal colleges left like to get people while they're young, invinicible and idealistic.
ReplyDeleteIf not Manning, Assange would have found another Young Idealistic Fool..
Even so I don't have any sympathy for him, the Military explains very cleary what can happen to you if you pass classified information to people who aren't supposed to have it.
The sad part is, the people who desinged and administer the system that made it so easy for him won't catch any heat at all to speak of.
So far you don't see Gates or Clinton pointing their fingers at the Senior Military and State Department officials who should have known how vunerable the system is.
Manning's nothing more than the rat who spooked a barn full of horses,,, he's not the guy who didn't secure the stalls or the one who left the barn door open.
Grumpy: Assange did not find Manning. According to reports, it was the other way around and connected to the hackers world. I don't have sympathy for Manning either, but it is the only outcome that is crystal clear. You're right the failure of the system, electronic and physical protections, is a critical piece of this drama and getting little attention in the "news." I like your concluding paragraph very much with the analogy to a barn. Good one!
ReplyDeleteThinking back to a couple other war time presidents.. Had this kind of leak occurred under FDR, there would have been some never seen again senior staff officers, Under Linclon, their would have a rash of tribunals.. held not far from the gallows
ReplyDeleteThe China cables and Wikileaking.....and the leaks go on.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/world/asia/05wikileaks-china.html?hp
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Had my WikiLeaks blog removed from Blogger. Has this happened to anyone else? #WikiLeaks
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Our link has todays leaks...posted, so it still seems to be working
There was some talk of Google being hacked here at the time.. then things got quiet.
ReplyDeleteOur link has today's updates.. I checked them via another link, so I guess we're sill good..
Saw a twitter from a guy complaing Google took down his WikiLeak Blog.
C) In sum, General Ward,s visit accomplished the necessary act of signing the document integral to full and timely implementation of the F-16 program in Morocco, and reinforced the already strong relationship between the U.S.
ReplyDeleteand Moroccan militaries. The upcoming year will see a full slate of security cooperation activities between the two militaries, building to the delivery of the first F-16 in July 2011. End Comment.
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Didn't know we were giving fighters to Morrocco
Manning (if the liberals stay out of it) is a dead man...we just need him to live long enough to help get all the rats.
ReplyDeleteAssange...has a whole world of people who want him dead. And those people are uncontrolled.
Agreed Capt, but what of those who should have known how vulnerable the system is and were in a position to fix it, but did't. What about a Spec 5 or Staff Sargent who should have known he had a PFC, not wraped to tight, with a whole lot of knowledge and access.
ReplyDeleteDFTTS... Just found a long comment that didn't post, looks as though Google redirected it to the spam file
ReplyDeleteGrumpy: My post was redirected because it was too long. It's ok, but thanks for telling me. I wondered if my coffee hadn't been strong enough.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely reject advocating killing anyone with regard to the Wikileaks. I will leave it to the repressive Russians and Chinese for that approach. The military court system will take care of Manning. The international court system is figuring out how to handle the Wikileaks organization, which ill not go away if Assange is put away.
Grumpy has a point. Of the tens of thousands of military personnel, one broke the law while others failed in implementing ordinary low, no cost basic security measures. I'm referring to what the eyes SEE and then report. Manning was identified pretty quick, so there is a monitoring structure in place. There is much in this story we simply don't know.
ReplyDeleteCurrent list of alternate locations, amazing
ReplyDeletehttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/79s9r1
I agree there are others who need to be imprisoned...the investigation continues.
ReplyDeleteDFTTS, check this out:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks
This exchange seemed the most relevant:
tburgi
Western governments lay claim to moral authority in part from having legal guarantees for a free press. Threats of legal sanction against Wikileaks and yourself seem to weaken this claim. (What press needs to be protected except that which is unpopular to the State? If being state-sanctioned is the test for being a media organization, and therefore able to claim rights to press freedom, the situation appears to be the same in authoritarian regimes and the west.)
Do you agree that western governments risk losing moral authority by attacking Wikileaks?
Do you believe western goverments have any moral authority to begin with?
Thanks,
Tim Burgi
Vancouver, Canada
Julian Assange:
The west has fiscalised its basic power relationships through a web of contracts, loans, shareholdings, bank holdings and so on. In such an environment it is easy for speech to be "free" because a change in political will rarely leads to any change in these basic instruments. Western speech, as something that rarely has any effect on power, is, like badgers and birds, free. In states like China, there is pervasive censorship, because speech still has power and power is scared of it. We should always look at censorship as an economic signal that reveals the potential power of speech in that jurisdiction. The attacks against us by the US point to a great hope, speech powerful enough to break the fiscal blockade.
Todays release pertains to the sale of Military Aircraft to Brazil...
ReplyDeleteFor the life of me I can't figur out how there can be anything in a couple diplomatic converstions in Brazil about selling them aircraft that a forward location in Iraq needs to know about to conduct it's mission..
Lewis... until the day comes, (most likely not in or on this world) that people respect others, their rights and property we will have a need for Government..
ReplyDeleteIs Government moral or ethical... probably not. All we can do is try to hold ours to highest standard possible.
As a part of that we have to realize that to ensure it's survival and to protect it's citizens it must be capible of backing its diplomacy militarily..... at all levels including some that are best kept from the public.
Grumpy, in theory I would agree with you, as that is what the "classical liberal" would argue. That's when the word "liberal" had a beautiful connotation. Our Founders were classical liberals. However, they have been proven wrong, just as all history has proven "limited government" to be a fantasy. Limited government is a utopia, and has never, and will never exist in reality. In just a few short years after the founding of the greatest nation in history, we had the Whiskey Rebellion, then the Sedition Act. We had the Supreme Court declaring itself the final arbiter of what is Constitutional and what is not. And of course, we already had man enslaving man.
ReplyDeleteJust as you believe my ideal will not exist in reality, there is already evidence that the classical liberal idea cannot.
I would argue that my ideal is more logically consistent, however. The idea that people are savages and therefore need government (as Madison sort of put it in the Federalist), is rather silly when you think about it. For who do you think will want to rule government but the most savage among us? It makes not much difference that the savages are seen as "sophisticated". It has always been the case, because government is nothing more than a violence monopoly over a given territory.
I will continue to advocate and educate to the best of my ability, and nature will take its course regardless of what you or I believe.
In spite of the probability that I will be subject to persecution for my beliefs...here goes.
ReplyDeleteAll men are sinners. We all have weaknesses that are inherent, not only in the world of humans, but in the world of animals as well.
Our founding fathers were very aware of this..their goal..to form a more perfect union..is just that..more perfect...not perfect.
We are doomed to think that we will ever reach Utopian oneness. However, we are certainly doomed to live under the scourge of dictator controlled enslavement if we do not constantly strive to form that more perfect union.
I do this with the knowledge that perfection, or even near perfection will never be reached. But to stop relegates me to the role of a sailor who's ship has lost its sails...tossed about on the sea with no control of my destiny.
I have set my course to ensure limited government, Fiscal Responsibility, and Free Markets. The Constitution of this nation is my guide...the words of the founders is my education..and the word of God is my moral foundation.
I am not perfect, nor can I hope to be..but I will strive for it till the day God decides I am ready to go home.
Sounds good to me, Capt. There's nothing to be persecuted for whatsoever. Your goal is individual liberty and natural law; as was the Founders, as is mine. It was the goal of the Anti-Federalist, as well. Contrast that with the statist, who claims their goal is egalitarianism; when in reality it is despotism, so long as they secure a spot for themselves in the ruling class. You can have neither charity nor fraternity without free will.
ReplyDeleteWould I be happy with being governed by the Constitution as is now written? - you better believe it. Unfortunately, those words to most in our nation are either unknown or meaningless, or worse (as in the eyes of our "leaders") an obstacle to be thwarted and overcome. I fear that if more people knew what it really stood for, it would be even more despised.
In the final analysis government becomes what Frederic Bastiat (the greatest advocate of classical liberalism and limited government that ever lived, in my opinion) said it was – "the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." That’s why even many of the strongest advocates for liberty justify any of its growth beyond its legal limits – we get goodies in return.
Surely you all know that the chances of our government adhering to the supreme law of our land are non-existent. The citizens themselves would not allow it. You all know history very well. Our course was set in the so-called "progressive" era. We have not changed course once since then. We have only sped up. Yours is a noble cause, and nothing would make me happier than attaining your desired ends.
Capt.. makes sense to me, humans cannot obtain perfection.. as a result neither can government...
ReplyDeleteWe are savages, we're all capible of violence if threatened.. We're also a herd, pack animal might be be better,.. if you think about, all herd animals have a sort of government within the herd... A wolf pack will have a leader..and some ranking members.
I didn't think you guys would persecute me...I was thinking of others...but being a mean alpha male type...it only makes me more dangerous.
ReplyDeleteOnward and upward.