tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post8806752089890409427..comments2023-05-10T06:19:33.953-04:00Comments on Today I'm Grumpy About: Ritalin: The jury remains outGrumpyelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-55290311522626107642011-05-20T04:40:22.539-04:002011-05-20T04:40:22.539-04:00I'm sorry about your grandson.
I believe that...I'm sorry about your grandson.<br /><br />I believe that Ritalin saved my kids' lives- and others that I know personally.Yishainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-63415104841649743692011-05-19T12:48:20.386-04:002011-05-19T12:48:20.386-04:00See that little boy to the left of the home page? ...See that little boy to the left of the home page? That was my grandson, you want to hear his success story? How he grew up and got better?<br />You can tell others about his story and how it contradicts yours, OR you can ignore his death like the folks that murdered him.madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-20706021857914698352011-05-19T07:45:40.675-04:002011-05-19T07:45:40.675-04:00polebot,
I don't know what they do in the US,...polebot,<br /><br />I don't know what they do in the US, but here, doctors generally will not start prescribing Ritalin until around 6 years old.<br /><br />Not being a doctor myself, I don't make up the criteria, but I do know that it isn't a matter of simply asking 18 questions. It involves 3 hours of testing.<br /><br />Of course kids need to develop, but all have needs of Yishainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-60537974306572352562011-05-19T07:34:04.097-04:002011-05-19T07:34:04.097-04:00madpole,
People once died of diabetes with no rep...madpole,<br /><br />People once died of diabetes with no reprieve- until insulin.<br /><br />There's no pattern except for the possibility of progress and a better life.<br /><br />As I mentioned, I know kids that Ritalin completely changed their lives for the better, and there was no addiction. Bythe time they were teens, they didn't feel they needed it anymore and chose to stop taking Yishainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-62091990483069202532011-05-19T02:21:34.648-04:002011-05-19T02:21:34.648-04:00@Sandra [quote]However, the researchers noted tha...@Sandra [quote]However, the researchers noted that "it was not possible to definitely rule out an association between ADHD drugs and increased rates of heart problems."<br /><br />That's the only part i seen..<br /><br />(i think that is why the FDA made them add it to the medication guide in 2004 after a black box warning was issued stating that the drug company must announce the polebothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944041304732341843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-9978151560250746342011-05-19T02:13:52.323-04:002011-05-19T02:13:52.323-04:00Does anyone here know that there are NATURAL remed...Does anyone here know that there are NATURAL remedies being used to treat ADHD that are JUST as effective? No of course not, the government doesn't own the copyrights to those..<br /><br />@Yishai I doubt you know anyone who was what you call "properly medicated" at ages 4-6 that could tell you that it really helped them. LoL How would they know? A teenager can tell you, man this polebothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944041304732341843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-86439216097257478932011-05-18T21:26:23.295-04:002011-05-18T21:26:23.295-04:00ADHD is real and the medications are helpful to th...ADHD is real and the medications are helpful to those who need it, are under the proper care, and properly monitored. It is a reasonable expectation that this happens. Unfortunately, it is not. <br /><br />This blog started out with the announcement by a Shire funded study that there is no reason to worry about heart failure. The results of the study should not be interpreted as suggesting there Sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13257929350887078341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-4835613297257655972011-05-18T20:12:01.570-04:002011-05-18T20:12:01.570-04:00Pole, you reminded me of my first year of school. ...Pole, you reminded me of my first year of school. I wasn't allowed to go to kindergarten because that was the year they de-segregated in Oklahoma and my father wouldn't allow it. I had a rather ugly old woman in comfortable shoes for a first grade teacher. I was left handed. She called my mom to school and told her I was a child of the devil. She slapped my hand with a ruler every time I Fishygalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02526923075559202055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-75016230956922503072011-05-18T19:04:38.072-04:002011-05-18T19:04:38.072-04:00Yishai said...
"For All:
One import...Yishai said...<br /><br /> "For All:<br /><br /> One important point is that giving Ritalin to a kid who genuinely needs it is NOT "drugging" him or her. "<br /><br />And I assume you have a clear cut way to diagnose a 4 year old to determine what he or she needs? Are you aware of the criteria used to put the babies on the drugs? It is NOT a diagnosis from a Psychologistpolebothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944041304732341843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-33751724051622932512011-05-18T16:41:48.895-04:002011-05-18T16:41:48.895-04:00Madpole As I recall, 30 was a milestone anniversar...Madpole As I recall, 30 was a milestone anniversary. Congrats, and I fully agree. To put up with us they qualify for Sainthood. Of course other dear ladies on this blog also qualify.USMC1949https://www.blogger.com/profile/08156904561725125171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-62649637226101433292011-05-18T16:33:17.315-04:002011-05-18T16:33:17.315-04:00All women deserve the pedestal treatment. Or Else....All women deserve the pedestal treatment. Or Else.madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-62921115587187770382011-05-18T16:31:26.716-04:002011-05-18T16:31:26.716-04:00Yishai, how were we inbalanced for centuries but n...Yishai, how were we inbalanced for centuries but now we NEED doping? Dude, it is a manufactured illness to line the pockets of the snake oil salesman. When I was a kid, we would say that boy has an active imagination, now we drug them, for what? a lifetime of drug dependacy!! See the pattern? Follow the money. Sure the drugs work, they are Opiates!!! A swat to the ass works just as well yet the madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-70409800284825489022011-05-18T16:27:09.661-04:002011-05-18T16:27:09.661-04:00I am sure your wives are saints as am I. ;o)I am sure your wives are saints as am I. ;o)Fishygalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02526923075559202055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-30526245624271633452011-05-18T16:25:29.003-04:002011-05-18T16:25:29.003-04:00Marine, I got 30 years in November, congratulation...Marine, I got 30 years in November, congratulations! My wife deserves all the medals for anyone to listen to so many dumb jokes and pretend I'm still funny is a hero!madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-82068452194713895442011-05-18T16:15:58.993-04:002011-05-18T16:15:58.993-04:00Fishy - 42 years this November. I still can not be...Fishy - 42 years this November. I still can not believe she has kept renewing my option. I can be a bit obnoxious and opinionated at times. I know who really is my better half. :)USMC1949https://www.blogger.com/profile/08156904561725125171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-13526095115784846212011-05-18T15:29:40.286-04:002011-05-18T15:29:40.286-04:00Sounds like your wife is one of the good ones USMC...Sounds like your wife is one of the good ones USMC.Fishygalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02526923075559202055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-68226727712290135262011-05-18T15:14:51.984-04:002011-05-18T15:14:51.984-04:00For All:
One important point is that giving Rital...For All:<br /><br />One important point is that giving Ritalin to a kid who genuinely needs it is NOT "drugging" him or her. What it does is UNdrug them by getting them back in balance.<br /><br />They then function properly, concentrate like any other kid, and so on.<br /><br />Sandra,<br /><br />What happens here is generally like it is there, except instead of a GP, usually they willYishainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-14896276071421054102011-05-18T13:58:02.396-04:002011-05-18T13:58:02.396-04:00Before mainstreaming was in vogue, my wife was a H...Before mainstreaming was in vogue, my wife was a HS LD/BD teacher. She saw the affects of long term drug therapy up close and personal. That is the primary reason why she got her Masters in Reading Recovery. She has now been in Kindergarten/1st Grade for 22 years.USMC1949https://www.blogger.com/profile/08156904561725125171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-7788166536245936052011-05-18T13:46:35.711-04:002011-05-18T13:46:35.711-04:00I have intentionally stayed away from these blogs....I have intentionally stayed away from these blogs. I have seen instances where children should NOT be medicated and cases where they have benefitted. No question that far too often drugs are the hoped for be all/end all cure or the parental answer that they are doing all that is possible for their child. I personally might have been sterile had I been born a female. My mother had taken DES while USMC1949https://www.blogger.com/profile/08156904561725125171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-42027667017563869462011-05-18T12:35:48.748-04:002011-05-18T12:35:48.748-04:00Thank you dear, I need your heart right now.Thank you dear, I need your heart right now.Madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-28920520932869718112011-05-18T12:10:04.572-04:002011-05-18T12:10:04.572-04:00Madpole my heart aches for you.Madpole my heart aches for you.Fishygalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02526923075559202055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-32880522002171490972011-05-18T11:52:51.754-04:002011-05-18T11:52:51.754-04:00Yishai - Neurologists are not involved in the U.S....Yishai - Neurologists are not involved in the U.S. A diagnosis is primarily based on the recommendations of the school child study team and parent observation. The doctor gives the prescription. It all depends on the amount of experience and expertise they have. We have a national problem.<br /><br />There had been a practice to give kids an EKG, but that seems to be up in the air and while it isSandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13257929350887078341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-57827833609859552102011-05-18T10:34:51.917-04:002011-05-18T10:34:51.917-04:00Tyler would sit on my lap and watch G rated movies...Tyler would sit on my lap and watch G rated movies. He loved playing with bugs. He gave me hugs and kisses. Ther teacher would meet me at the bus stop offering financial aid to get Tyler medicated. I LOVED doing homework with him. <br />He is dead, do you understand Yishai? Dead. No more anything, now he sits in a box to my left, about one foot square, and he is ssssoooo quiet.<br />A family madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-31245321257950643772011-05-18T10:25:22.283-04:002011-05-18T10:25:22.283-04:00There was no ADHD until someone discovered there i...There was no ADHD until someone discovered there is a profit in drugging children. SAY NO TO DRUGS. Generations of men and women evolved and left this earth a better place WITHOUT medication. Now, all of a sudden, everyone is drugging children with everything from cough medicine to cocaine and opiates. Lawyewrs are refusing to say my grandson was worth consideration because states have capped madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-36792225399026572222011-05-18T10:23:52.146-04:002011-05-18T10:23:52.146-04:00Sandra,
Generally it is done by a neurologist. As...Sandra,<br /><br />Generally it is done by a neurologist. As to details of the actual process, I don't know.Yishainoreply@blogger.com