tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post1022269686735627302..comments2023-05-10T06:19:33.953-04:00Comments on Today I'm Grumpy About: My Grandson, TylerGrumpyelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-71414582930914234972011-03-02T19:13:54.644-05:002011-03-02T19:13:54.644-05:00Madpole, Debbie;
I'm not ready to let Tyler b...Madpole, Debbie;<br /><br />I'm not ready to let Tyler be forgotten, I'm in this for as long as you guys want to fight.Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-1678435239942483942011-03-02T19:10:03.233-05:002011-03-02T19:10:03.233-05:00Smartgal, if you had kids I've got a hunch the...Smartgal, if you had kids I've got a hunch they'd show everyone all DUE repsect.. Also believe if they didn't, they'd get, ahhh, talked to. <br /><br />Your skll at dealing with adult stupidity is known and respected by most of the posters here.Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-5116248478362372852011-03-02T11:45:36.805-05:002011-03-02T11:45:36.805-05:00This is an awful story. Mad, my deepest sympathies...This is an awful story. Mad, my deepest sympathies on your loss. <br /><br />It is amazing to me that any parent would consider the opinion of a teacher or principle to be anything close to medically sound. These people have zero medical training and are in no way in a position to recommend drugging a child to make them more compliant. <br /><br />Where does a school get off requiring, or even Smartgalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07291163188307564426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-66897441973503492952011-03-01T21:29:25.696-05:002011-03-01T21:29:25.696-05:00Ritalin
Generic Name: methylphenidate
Brand Names...Ritalin<br />Generic Name: methylphenidate<br />Brand Names: Concerta, Metadate, Methylin, Ritalin<br /><br />Different drug companies are making Ritalin now and putting their own brand name to it, but it's still Ritalin. Tyler was switched to Metadate. We did not know....Debbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-69461886803508939712011-03-01T11:17:21.562-05:002011-03-01T11:17:21.562-05:00Aqua, it is wrong for us to get hit like this.
We...Aqua, it is wrong for us to get hit like this. <br />We love them, guide them, and protect them and someone who's only stake in the game is profit robs us of our treasure like a thief in the night. How can they tell us to "say no to drugs" and dope them up to control behaviour?madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-43922362814654380442011-03-01T11:09:55.936-05:002011-03-01T11:09:55.936-05:00Methylphenidate
It's ritalin, they keep changi...Methylphenidate<br />It's ritalin, they keep changing the name about every dozen or so deaths.<br />You are right, I'm not about getting legal. I have always liked to straighten bad folks out with a poke to the nose. <br />My wife and son have been digging up all the facts and we have pieced together small indications that we dismissed at the time. Such as, a couple of weeks prior, Tyler madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-90810816283269425632011-03-01T08:27:14.979-05:002011-03-01T08:27:14.979-05:00Madpole. You are NOT at fault in any of this. Th...Madpole. You are NOT at fault in any of this. The people who are responsible need to "own" their responsibility. Unfortunately, the only way to make people or institutions understand their responsibility is through financial penalties.<br /><br />I know you and know that you are far from the type who would pursue the route that I am thinking of, however you must. Only by stiff SonsOfLiberty4evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10131415886818233764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-88402519376357261932011-02-28T14:00:45.929-05:002011-02-28T14:00:45.929-05:00Loosing a child-family member and the use of medic...Loosing a child-family member and the use of medication to solve children's behavior problems are issues I have painfully had to deal with. <br /><br />As far as loosing a child member of the close family goes the pain so unbearable that unless you've lived you just don't know. The diminishes over time but never goes completely away. Then there will be something happen to bring it Aquagrumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05713137284993379224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-81926175163717481002011-02-27T10:20:35.969-05:002011-02-27T10:20:35.969-05:00Mad, if writing your feelings helps to ease your m...Mad, if writing your feelings helps to ease your mind then please keep it up. <br /><br />Some times in our lives, we all have pain, we all have sorrow<br />But if you are wise, you know that there's always tomorrow.<br /><br />Lean on me, when you're not strong, and I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on, <br />for, it won't be long, till I'm gonna need somebody to FastZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012965797660388297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-18006588766356601392011-02-27T09:54:35.589-05:002011-02-27T09:54:35.589-05:00Yes dear Fast, I will. I still got a lot of love l...Yes dear Fast, I will. I still got a lot of love left. I'm just so sad. Each morning is hell, waking up stinks. By the days end, I've done some good, spread some happiness, but every morning I guess we can expect posts like that above. Until the hurt isn't so bad.madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-13423596782756736642011-02-27T09:36:37.648-05:002011-02-27T09:36:37.648-05:00Mad- If any of us could change things we would do ...Mad- If any of us could change things we would do it in a heartbeat. We would do anything to ease your pain. But the only thing we can do is to help carry you over the rough patches until the road smooths out a little.<br /><br />We're here Mad, reach out to us and let us help. Come meet with us and be reminded that there is a world out here that needs you. A world separate from your grief, FastZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012965797660388297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-55933165576652956022011-02-27T07:37:52.768-05:002011-02-27T07:37:52.768-05:00I don't want this post to end.
I don't wan...I don't want this post to end.<br />I don't want to say good-bye.<br />My wife threw out his toothbrush the other day and I have been on her about it since.<br />People laugh and carry on, I don't want to. <br />Every moment is hell, all I want is Tyler.<br />That isn't so much to ask, after all I do for everyone else, for me I never ask anything,but I'm begging now. Please madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-44128417700209722152011-02-26T22:46:47.403-05:002011-02-26T22:46:47.403-05:00Captain; I have it on good authority that sudden a...Captain; I have it on good authority that sudden attacks of retardation in boys and girls are common around that age, generally, except for parental greying there is no permanet long term damage. <br /><br />Lefty; I agree, the arrogance and incompetence that make this possible have to be eliminated. As far as reform, I think its time to at what worked when we had the best educational the world Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-10554309934471496812011-02-26T21:39:49.696-05:002011-02-26T21:39:49.696-05:00Just as a followup, I pursued what the perceived p...Just as a followup, I pursued what the perceived problem was with my son, they said he just isn't paying attention in math. I asked them specifically what, and sat at the kitchen table that night, and we worked out his 'confusion'... using the methods from when I learned. He took the 'quiz' the next day, and scored perfect from then on out without the medication... the same Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-65852850021398255952011-02-26T21:27:23.452-05:002011-02-26T21:27:23.452-05:00My sister is a behavioral therapist, unlike many o...My sister is a behavioral therapist, unlike many of her peers she believes that all issues require much more than just medications.<br /><br />The school system "suggested" I have my Daughter and later my son medicated. My answer can not be posted here...Keep in mind this was the same school system that said my Daughter was either gifted or retarded. I know for a fact she did not Capt Black Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143322501685866089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-46147406476757900442011-02-26T20:18:16.889-05:002011-02-26T20:18:16.889-05:00Madpole, With 5 grandchildren, I can only imagine ...Madpole, With 5 grandchildren, I can only imagine the pain you have had to endure. There just is nothing that can be said to ease that pain. I just pray that in time it will be easier to live with.USMC1949https://www.blogger.com/profile/08156904561725125171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-90055322236289389692011-02-26T11:55:40.675-05:002011-02-26T11:55:40.675-05:00Anonymous,,, I didn't recall anyone calling te...Anonymous,,, I didn't recall anyone calling teachers evil.. From the comments so far, it's clear there's a problem. Is that problem driven by teachers or the school systems? I don't know.<br /><br />What I Do Know, is when someone insists that a child needs to be medicated, parents have every right to question their right, authority and qualifications to make the statement. Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-57801983853990802152011-02-26T10:40:04.756-05:002011-02-26T10:40:04.756-05:00To Tyler's Family:
I pray that the deep pain o...To Tyler's Family:<br />I pray that the deep pain of loss subsides enough so that Tyler is remembered more frequently for how he lived, a ray of light, bringing joy and laughter. You loved him deeply and he knew that.<br />May God bring a measure of peace to all of the family in these difficult times.Sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13257929350887078341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-71955157610090736882011-02-26T10:35:07.269-05:002011-02-26T10:35:07.269-05:00I strongly object to Anonymous comments that teach...I strongly object to Anonymous comments that teachers are "evil people." There are several members of this group whose close family member are in fact teachers. The loss this family is suffering should not be used in this way. So, NO - I do not agree with that statement and in fact, I have spent untold hours trying to present the facts and evidence about the conversion of schooling intoSandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13257929350887078341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-77615577151647339462011-02-26T10:02:46.263-05:002011-02-26T10:02:46.263-05:00I certainly feel tremendously sorry for Debbie and...I certainly feel tremendously sorry for Debbie and Madpole. There is no greater pain than to lose a young child. God Bless you both.<br /><br />Now can we all agree that teachers are evil people who don't care about our children or their education and the only reason they are teachers is because want a soft job where the government can take care of their every want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-41797785625860372282011-02-26T09:43:13.343-05:002011-02-26T09:43:13.343-05:00I too had two boys that the school had wanted me t...I too had two boys that the school had wanted me to put on medication for ADHD. I complide, for their benefit. My boys were Zombies, I chose to take them off of the medication.<br />The school noticed almost immediatly and asked me why did I do such a thing, I told them as thier Mother, I could not watch my children sit in front of the television and not be able to function. Well they were quick Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16543909821979193757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-38626127320107709392011-02-26T08:56:29.989-05:002011-02-26T08:56:29.989-05:00Who One... I'm not sure it's time to cut s...Who One... I'm not sure it's time to cut school funding, the last 50 years should have taught us that just throwing more money and new untested idea's into the system isn't the answer..<br /><br />Here in Florida the legislature as a vague idea of how they want to move towards merrit pay.. They refuse to guess what the scheme will cost or how it will be paid for. Kind of like Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-7901284958461375472011-02-26T08:43:24.791-05:002011-02-26T08:43:24.791-05:00Madpole and Family- My thoughts are with you every...Madpole and Family- My thoughts are with you every day. Stay strong.<br /><br />When my youngest son was in 8th grade I got a call at work one day from his guidance counsellor. He said that my son had "not been performing" up to his expected level and would I be willing to have him tested for ADHD? He was not getting in trouble nor causing class disruptions, he merely "was not FastZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012965797660388297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-49506180796591759912011-02-26T08:36:48.823-05:002011-02-26T08:36:48.823-05:00Tyler wasn't an unruly child.
The teachers pro...Tyler wasn't an unruly child.<br />The teachers problem with him was that he wasn't performing the work as instructed, and that was my fault. When I sat down to do homework with Tyler, I taught him little games to play to make the problems easier. Such as carrying a digit, I would term a loan to a teenager and memorizing spelling words with humor.<br />Tyler started to teach others and madpolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6870648813893729932.post-5895274449142847892011-02-26T08:29:36.477-05:002011-02-26T08:29:36.477-05:00Anonymous.. Don't think you'll get much a...Anonymous.. Don't think you'll get much argument about bringing back the paddle on this site. I think most people posting here would rather see that then what happened to Tyler, or the approach the schools used with Lefty's son. <br /><br />One of the things we're talking about here is kids getting medicated to make life easier on the teachers without anyone explaining the Grumpyelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564199754847966303noreply@blogger.com